My interest in films returned with more quiet time in the kitchen
renovations. Not that the kitchen is finished yet, but we are now into
cosmetics and my nervous system is coming slowly back to normal. I started to
have better results in bridge and consequently I am back to enjoying it. I
still have problems to concentrate on reading heavier books like Adam Phillips
(I have his there books on my table waiting for better quality of my concentration)
but seeing films is not beyond my current mental capacity, so went to see The Man
Who Knew Infinity. I am glad I saw it as the film has not been screen for a
long, two days later is off already. This may say something about its
attractiveness, but I liked it and would recommend it but not to those who like
action movies or love stories. Actually this film is about love but not necessarily
romantic type even thought there is a bit of romance as well serving to highlight
hero’s life priorities.
The film is about a self-taught Indian mathematics genius Srinivasa
Ramanujan who traveled to Trinity College , Cambridge where he stayed five
years surprising respectable and famous professors (like Bertrand Russell) with
the depth of his conclusions to which he did not think it was necessary to supply
proofs. The most involved and revolutionary mathematical theories came to him from
nowhere. From God? Definitely from some higher power talking to his
subconscious. This is the true story and Ramanujan really lived, albeit a short
time and made serious discoveries in mathematical analysis and numbers theory. Most
of his theorems have been proven by now and serve us somewhere in the scientific
background of our every day life. This is deeply philosophical film, in my
opinion, and the question of how Ramanujan knew what he announced, in such profusion to
the stunned professors at Trinity College , does not have an
answer. The only answer that comes to my mind is that God exists and is active
in our reason driven life. The story of Ramanujan is almost a mathematically
based proof of that.
The film is also about an unlikely friendship of two people, an English
mathematician G.H. Hardy and mainly self taught very unconventional Indian
young man Ramanujan. Jeremy Irons who plays the English professor is absolutely
wonderful in this role, but isn’t he in all his roles? He is to me. In this
film he is more handsome than ever, but this is rather beside the point.
Dev Patel is good in his role, but somebody said that it is time he
played a villain. I think there is something in it. He is a bit sugar coated in
this role as well as he was in Slamdog Millionaire. I still liked his performance
a lot, he is convincing playing a young man bewildered by other than his own
realities. One can see his growing acceptance and resignation to it.
One of my detours in life was studying pure mathematics for five years. I
did not turn out to be a real mathematician, but these five years were useful and
it gave me a powerful message – if I could do that, I can perhaps do almost anything
else, it should not be harder than the five years of math. Maybe it was not a
detour but an important part of my life education?
I got a glimpse of infinity when a professor presented us with a model of
a universe being a circle without borders. My mind went into overdrive and this
was my chance to understand the beauty of mathematics. I did not take this
chance. Regrets? Maybe…
My talented student fellows were not your conventional people. They were
forgetful, eccentric, and sometimes really strange. They loved music and they
lost themselves in it. They loved mountain claiming risking and sometimes
loosing their lives in the process. They dressed in a most strange fashion. Matching
socks were a rarity with some. So when I read that G.H. Hardy was an eccentric,
I did not agree with this opinion. He was about normal being a talented mathematician.
This is how I know such people. What is in their minds is so absorbing that outside
life is insignificant.
The film made an impression on me and woke up memories that had not surfaced
for a long time. For me 10 out of 10, but this is a very personal rating.
Yes, a fascinating fellow, he was, AC - I look forward to the movie at some point. There've been several films/stories about mathematical prodigies (will come back to that) - 'Beautiful Mind' and 'Good Will Hunting' and 'Infinity' come to mind, and I see now that there is a wiki page dedicated to this very subject.
ReplyDeleteOn the 'prodigies' thing - can't remember, but think it was in GWH that it was remarked that these luminous people all did their best work while quite young. Brings to mind other fields - music in particular, but also other scientific fields - where the 'best work' was done early in career.
I wonder if caution just grows with age; or the need to protect reputation; or maybe it's just age-related diminishment of brain cells? As a side-muse this, in itself, is something to ponder.
kvd
ps happy your kitchen is functional. A good day for something warm and filling :)
So, you have heard of him. I also read that the human brain reaches its peak performance around 27th year of ones life. If you have passed the mark, there are compensations to enjoy.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your sentiments re my kitchen saga. Actually, I plan to stop comfort eating that supported me through the problems and their solving. And I almost forgot how to cook!
I was unwell when the film was shown here. Sadly, because it is in English it received lukewarm reception. I will be buying the DVD when it is released to see it at home. Ramanujam is a legend here and often quoted for his divine inspirations just as you do here.
ReplyDeleteThe film may not be in general opinion 10 out of 10 as it was to me and it may not be in Indian taste, so I would understand the lukewarm reception. My view is a very personal one, so please consider that. Having said that I still stay by my subjective opinion. It really worked for me.
Delete"..the depth of his conclusions to which he did not think it was necessary to supply proofs. The most involved and revolutionary mathematical theories came to him from nowhere. From God?"
ReplyDeleteThis time I will pose as an agnostic or at least sceptic.
In my opinion this phenomenon falls into domain of philosophy, namely Wittgenstein - our thinking is determined by language. Example - Australian Aborigines (and may other old cultures) do not have word "god" in their vocabulary, so this concept is quite strange to them. I heard an interesting story, that newborn child's mind is opened to many concepts and ideas, but learning a specific language cuts off many channels of thinking.
This leads me to explaining Srinivasa case - somehow his brain preserved its natural ability of thinking, but there was no mechanism to translate it to language used by mathematicians.
I recommend Rotten Tomatoes site as a source of good comments - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_man_who_knew_infinity/
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DeleteHi there, yes indeed an interesting point and I would agree that the language has big influence on our thinking and then actions. How I could think differently being trained in NLP? We, Poles, must have deeply ingrained "patriotism" and "homeland" into our vocabulary and for a long time.
DeleteAgnostic? I will write my comment to a sceptic. I am somewhat sceptical myself in this area, but the longer I live the more clearly I see a pattern in my life. As if somebody designed it. I do not feel qualified to expand on that, this is just a question in my mind that may stay without an answer.
About "natural ability of thinking". Where does this come from?
I will read Rotten Tomatoes with interest, but I do not think that I will change my view. This is a very personal, subjective view and for me the film was very important. I admit this is not your The Hateful Eight and I would not nominate it for an Oscar. Ale dla mnie bomba!
@pharlap Australian Aborigines (and may other old cultures) do not have word "god" in their vocabulary, so this concept is quite strange to them.
ReplyDeleteThere are two problems with this statement. 1) it assumes a monolithic 'aboriginal culture' which is just not so; 2) it applies a concept of 'god' to people who seemingly had a very rich variety of myths and creation stories including, but not limited to, the Rainbow Serpent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Serpent
But apart from that, your comment on the possible limiting effect of language is quite interesting.
kvd
I agree that there are many Aboriginal tribes using different languages and having different traditions and beliefs. And their spiritual life may be richer than that of people belonging to established religion.
DeleteAs far as I know, there is no tribe which has god in their vocabulary.
It reminds me a case from opposite site of the world - many Eskimo tribes do not have a word SNOW in their vocabulary. They have instead many, many names referring to various aspects on of this white substance. Limiting all their surrounding to just one word would be very depressing indeed.
@AC - I agree that opinions of Rotten Tomatoes or any movie authority should not influence too mach our own opinion. In my opinion they just have good commentators.
ReplyDeleteNatural ability of thinking - in my case it comes from my daughter in law. For me, firstly she so natural mother, that I believe whatever she says in this area. Secondly, the idea appeals so much to me, that I prefer not to investigate any further.
Another interesting point she raised - children remember a lot from times they spent in the womb. Probably they could provide lots of first hand knowledge about gestation and birth, but there is no way of communication. Again - teaching them language and realities of the world blocks all these memories and knowledge
I was just curious who may have put this natural ability of thinking and knowledge into new born children. How come that they may have knowledge of things they have not learnt or experienced. Reincarnation, bringing it from an unknown place, being inspired by a higher power? Any suggestions? Or is this you do not want to investigate further? Then I will not continue the subject.
DeleteYou have an interesting daughter in law. I mean it in a positive sense.
AC - I am quite puzzled by this phenomenon, but I am afraid (maybe relieved), that I do not have enough knowledge of brain functioning and other related subjects needed to investigate the matter deeper.
DeleteI am also puzzled by another side of the same coin - some people are born deaf and blind and I know, that somehow they are able to understand the world around and communicate. How this is achieved? I found some answer => https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080813224552AAzPM5D
On a lighter note:
Somebody asked a blind person it he would like to have some milk.
- what is milk asked the blind.
- it is a white liquid.
- Liquid I know, but what is white?
- White is a colour of swan feathers. (Apparently it did not happen in Australia).
- Feathers I know, but what is a swan?
- Swan is a bird with long, bend neck.
- Neck, long, I know, but what is bend?
- Just place your hands on my arm - now it is straight, now it is bend.
- O, yes! Now I know what milk is.
I am also relieved. It is an interesting subject, but needs some mystical approach that I lack. Thank you for an opportunity to smile reading the joke.
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